SCOTIA NORTH


Who remembers Scotia North?

Scotia North was opened in September 1950 to provide additional accommodation for servicemen and their dependants.  It was located on Hesketh Meadow Lane just off the East Lancs Road in Lowton near Leigh.


The site, once used by the Royal Navy, comprised a number of H-shaped blocks which were converted into 5 - 8 apartments each, totaling 110 units of family accommodation.  In some cases internal walls were knocked down to make rooms larger and all of the units were redecorated and boasted steam heat.  Each block had hardstands for family cars outside.  Additionally each block of apartments had washrooms for laundry.


The site included a 500 man theatre with 35mm movies shown on a regular schedule, a large playground for children, first aid facilities and a large car park holding 150 vehicles.


The site plan below originally published in the Burtonwood Beacon also shows a school and Nissen huts which were not used.  Penny Hooper, a former resident when she was a child, contacted me on the 5th of April 2004 to say the school was in use.  Dependants children were transported to the school in Site 1 at Burtonwood.

Below is all that remains of Scotia North.  The theatre building remains and is used as a local community centre.  It has been extended and re-roofed.  The car park has been enlarged.  The  blocks to the north have been replaced by playing fields and to the south are housing estates.

 

Below is the picture published in the Burtonwood Beacon used to entice people to move to Scotia North!

 

 

Below are a series of pictures taken on June 7th 2001 (election day)

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Does anyone have any photographs or memories of Scotia North?

Email received on 22nd September 2014

My dad, SMSgt Kenneth Johnson, was stationed at Burtonwood AFB in the early 1950s and we lived in the Scotia North housing. Dad was a Medic.  Until I found your website I did not know that the housing area where we lived was called as Scotia North.  I always referred to it as Burtonwood.  I did realize that we did not live on the Burtonwood base as I recall visiting there with my dad. He played softball and he took me to see his games.  I also recall riding a bus and attending kindergarten in the Quonset Huts which I think were on Burtonwood.  After that I attended elementary school there in the school at Scotia North.  Mom came to school one day and took 8mm movies.  I have very distinct memories from my time at Scotia North.  I recall walking over to a building where Rail Road workers stayed and I ate fish and chips with them. I also remember wandering off into the town and a lady invited me in for tea.  We had a milk truck that delivered to our door at Scotia North.  One time I got the idea to jump on the back bumper and ride. I recall the milk truck going around a corner and there on the side of the road stood my mom. That was the only time I jumped on the back of a milk truck.  I am attaching three photos that my parents took there in Scotia North.  If memory serves me, we lived in the H that was located fartherest north or per your map, the H on the top of the map fartherest to the left.  Our front door shows up in two of the photos.  It would be the door on the right facing the camera in both photos.  One photo shows where some parent has put up a chain link fence to keep the little kids in.  I believe the pipes that show up in the photo are the steam pipes that supplied heat to the homes.  The photo that shows a boy and girl on bikes and another little boy to the right is me, my sister and my little brother.  I have a baby sister who was born there.  Not born on Burtonwood base, but in a two or three story hospital at a nearby town.
 
Feel free to use my photos on your Burtonwood website.  Mom and Dad are both gone now, but I know they would like to share their photos.

 

 

 

Email received on 28th September 2014

Attached are three more photos that should be of interest to those who lived at Burtonwood air base. These were most likely taken at the NCO Club on different nights.  One is a large group shot showing the NCO's and their wives. This photo was taken in 1953. I scanned this from an old photo.  This group photo was probably taken at one of  the many dances that were held at the NCO Club as you can see that the band is still on stage. 
 
The other two photos were scanned from old black and white negatives and they show my mom and some other NCO wives dressed up in sacks with mops on their heads.  They were putting on a show on the same stage where the group photo was taken.  There is a "Y" shaped decoration on the upper left of the stage that shows up in both the group photo and the photo where the wives are lined up dancing on stage. 
 
My dad was Msgt Ken Johnson and he was a Medic with the US Air Force at Burtonwood. My mother was Eula Bea Johnson.  Both are now deceased.
 
I know there are a couple of more old photos from Burtonwood, but I will have to find them. Thanks for creating the Burtonwood website and posting old photos and stories

 

 

 


Email received on 2nd May 2004:

I too lived at Scotia North...!!!!!  I found this site by pure luck and just clicking away on things.  I was in THE SCOTIA NORTH SCHOOL!!!  4th and 5th grade.  Ms. Sweeney was my teacher.  She taught two grades at once.  Her husband was in the military and she had twins, Shawn and Sharon...we used to think they were so cute.  After 5th grade we were bused to the Base School.  My dad took pictures of our teachers when they made home visits.  We used to skate on a large concrete area that was the floor of some building that had been torn down.  I learned how to play baseball on the little field there across from M-4 where I lived with my family, The Thomas Collins family.  Louise, Connie, Carole, and Tommy.  We went home when I was in the middle of the 6th grade to Hunter Air force Base in Savannah.  I always wondered what happened to the friends I had there.  What a unique experience we had, trading comic books, going to the little movie for  25 cents, and coming home for lunch each day!  Once a year we went to the indoor swimming pool in Burtonwood.  We had girl scouts, and push mores for grass, daddy even had a real color movie camera which was probably the first one made!!!  We have movies of us riding our bikes and playing in the little yard which he fenced in with a white wicket fence.  He also painted the little window sills red and white.  Several years ago, my sister, Carole, went back to England and visited our little M-4 apartment.  She was moved to tears to see the little window sills still standing amidst the rubble and they were still painted with that red and white paint.  She took pictures and I will never forget seeing them.  It was like a picture out of the past.  We used to walk to a railroad track and watch the trains go by...we weren't supposed to go over there but being kids, we did anyway and were ready to run if we saw anything.  We took a picnic of saltine crackers to eat!!!  Kathleen Wackley, Trevor Parks, a Catholic Family of 13 kids, Denny Queen, Larry ?, and others I may be able to recall.  My mom taught us how to cook in the little kitchen and the adults played volleyball until 11:00 pm when it was summertime cause the day was so long. 
Well, I have carried on a long time but it is so neat to find a site like this. 
Thanks and let me hear from you if you have any connections to people who were there in around 1954- 1957.
Connie Collins Gay
Georgia

connie31@cox.net


Victor Bradford's Account

--I was a family member when Dad was stationed at Burtonwood from '55 to '58 -- he was the Supervisor of the Clothing Sales Store and was on the Supply Inspection Team for the European stores. We lived at Wigan the first year (I went to St.Cuthbert's) and we then moved to Scotia North. Mom volunteered at Scotia North with the Scouts and the crafts section, and they, like nearly everyone else, were active in the community. My younger brother and sister also lived at Scotia North and I will pass on this website to them. Alas, Dad and Mom have passed forward (they were married for many years), and they would have loved to see this website (perhaps they were guiding me to it!). Not many places have as active an historical perspective as you do, and at the time the Air Force, as a new service, really had no heritage yet.  I am sure Dad knew and worked with some of the folks on the Message Board -- I did not recognize any of the names, but then I don't remember many visits to Burtonwood as a small child and Scotia North was a small place (actually, it was just the right size for a ten year-old!).  I have also contacted Connie Gay, who wrote the letter found in your Scotia North Section.

--I have often thought of the wonderful people at Scotia North -- the friends my age, the adult leaders who helped us, and the people in the local community -- who helped us grow up happy in a challenging world.  I also remember a little pond near the community where we used to watch how tadpoles and newts lived and grew, the coal (coke) yard near the school which seemed like mountains to us (and which the custodian had to clean up many times after our games), spending many hours making grass forts in the area to the north of the housing area, excursions into the nearby villages with their markets, and so much more!  I think this kind of environment helped many of us grow into basically optimistic and positive adults.  These people can be proud of the gift they gave to young children.

--We are thinking of visiting England in the spring, depending on the work schedule (I retired from the Air Force a few years ago, and am now a community health dentist and an Indian Health Service contractor.  This probably resembles the British national health service, and I often work with young children. My wife of 36-1/2 years is a librarian and also a "brat;" her dad was stationed at SHAPE around the same time we were in England). If we can make it we will definitely stop in; if not, then we will plan a visit for the future. I see a reunion is scheduled in New Orleans for 2008 and I hope there will be other activities too (perhaps sooner).

Vic Bradford  
stpdk2000@yahoo.com